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Stephen Helfer's avatar

Anti smokers are committed to a world without tobacco or nicotine & will do almost anything to achieve this goal. If they wanted people to smoke, for tax revenue, or for whatever reason, they would not pass endless restrictions on where people can smoke & would not stigmatize smoking & smokers to the extent that they do. In the U.S. anti-smoking activists depict vaping & other forms of nicotine use equally negatively they do smoking. The motives of the ant-smoking movement, other than the acquisition of power & control, cannot easily be explained.

Dragan Miletic's avatar

Australia here.

The UK and NZ were the vaping light houses in our eyes. And we were and still are constantly pointing the finger towards the UK. " Why can not we be like the UK?" The evidence is there, look at the data!"

For over a decade we were hoping the authorities will finaly see the truth, the evidence, the outcomes and make nicotine vaping fully legal. Most vapers in Australia still think that way.

Following everything vaping globally, some 5 years ago I saw that there is something else at play. I can only explain in my head as some kind of anti-vaping ideology, with Michael Bloomberg as the leader.

Otherwise you can not justify all these stupid decisions.

From what I can see from here the UK is heading in the same direction as Australia. No amount of reason, rationale or strategic thinking is going to help. Under the guise of " Think about the children, and Save the Children" they will implement a defacto prohibition.

I hope I am wrong.

But, get ready for an explosion of the Black-market, turf wars, fire bombings, closures of legal business.

As far as I can read the UK is already having a blooming cigarette black market, due to the idiots not knowing when too much tax is turning addicts to alternative sources. In Australia a pack of legal cigarettes is 50$ and the Black-market ones are 10$. No government is able now to wind back policies that brought these anomalies.

We have now only BM disposable vapes available to the wider population.

These anti-nicotine crusaders will achieve their goals and the failure of their policies will blame on "not enough enforcement" and in that way add another substance to the failed "war on drugs".

Do not fall from a leader of tobacco harm reduction to another Australia.

I hope it will not happen but all the signs are there. People underestimate the power of stupidity.

Australia is an example of what NOT to do.

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