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Carl V Phillips, PhD's avatar

Hmmm. Ok, so you know this is coming from someone who agrees with most of your views and shares you opposition to most nanny state (or nanny big-nonstate-institution) stuff. Gambling advertising, at least as it currently exists, seems particularly noxious and deserving of throttling. Yes, I know, slippery slopes are real, but going from that to saying nothing should be fought is a mistake. Gambling ads (the ones I see in the US, I realize that may not generalize) are fundamentally deceptive. The universal theme (for obvious reasons) is people reliably raking in winnings, which is obviously flatly contrary to the business model. We know enough to know that this deception works on quite a few people who do not understand how things work. That is bad. It is equivalent to allowing cigarettes or quack "alternatives" to proper medicine to be advertised as health promoting. That is different from honest (or at least not actively dishonest) marketing that makes people aware of the products and touts their (real) benefits.

The policy you criticize is also different from government using police powers to completely ban advertising something (let alone the something itself). That should demand a very high bar. But someone deciding that this is a toxic element in society that they do not want to support, even if that means not getting to cash in themselves on the scam, seems rather laudable actually. This is not the equivalent of making everyone who drinks at a healthful level pay some penalty because a few people drink unhealthily (and perhaps not even affect the latter). Refusing to be a part of the advertising that is purpose-built to attract more people to lose what they cannot afford, because they are able to be misled into thinking winning is the most likely outcome for them, does not hurt people who get net positive entertainment value from their gambling expenditures. No one who has a thoughtful positive relationship with gambling is going to have any difficulty finding platforms without seeing many ads per day.

I have to say that I type some of those words only by forcing myself to include "even if" and "for those who" clauses to avoid presumption. I am a strong believer that some people can have a net positive experience from most any drug use or other freely chosen use of their resources. But I cannot get my personal head around someone wanting to sit around with just their mind and their phone feed money into a "house always wins" computer program (which is not the same as zero-sum bets among friends, or perhaps even spectacle gambling). If someone gave me $100 on the condition I immediately bet it online and could keep any winnings, I would do it, but I would find it an unpleasant experience. There are drug usages that cause me to say "why would anyone deliberately choose to experience this?" while I can still say "obviously some people like it because they choose to do it, so have fun with that." But I am not convinced online gambling deserves the latter consideration because it seems that most people are motivated by the irrational expectation that they will eventually turn a profit, despite this becoming vanishingly rare as their number of bets increases, and cultivating and then preying on irrationality is not ok.

Stephen Helfer's avatar

Every time you post on the increasing inclination of the state, or other powerful institutions, to regulate what was the sole province of the individual citizen, it hearkens back to the holy war on the tobacco industry and its idealogues like Doll, Wynder, et al.

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