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Christopher Snowdon
Aug 22, 2022
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There are some crazy conspiracy theories associated with Bill Gates these days. First he wanted to kill everybody with vaccines, then he wanted to buy up all the world's farmland and now he wants everybody to stop eating meat or something. 

A Guardian article by the left-wing journalist George Monbiot has received a surprising amount of attention from the denizens of Clown World. In it, Monbiot argues that organic lamb and beef are the most environmentally destructive farm products. The article is full of holes and can be destroyed with facts and logic as this thread does, but the clowns went straight for the ad hominem argument instead.

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Wall Street Silver @WallStreetSilv
Bill Gates apparently donated $13 million to the Atlantic and the Guardian… in turn, they are churning out articles like this… “the most damaging farm products? Organic pasture-fed beef and lamb”… Paid for activist "journalism".
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8:00 AM ∙ Aug 20, 2022
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Never one to miss out on a retweet, attention-seeking slaphead James Melville joined in...

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Meanwhile, The Guardian has received $12,951,391 in support from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
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8:27 PM ∙ Aug 21, 2022
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Live by the sword, die by the sword, you might say. No one is more guilty than George Monbiot of accusing his opponents of being mouthpieces for billionaires. No one in British journalism has done more to foster the cynical lie that people who espouse free market or libertarian views do so because they are hired guns of wealthy or corporate interests. 

It is true that Bill Gates gives a lot of money to the Guardian, but with the boot on the other foot, Monbiot spluttered with disgust at the suggestion that his opinions are influenced by whoever partially funds his employer.

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Everything about this conspiracy theory is false. But never mind, let's give it 11,000 likes. 1. The Guardian asked me to cover a different topic, but I asked to write about this one, as I thought it was more important. In other words, the initiative was entirely mine.🧵
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Bill Gates apparently donated $13 million to the Atlantic and the Guardian… in turn, they are churning out articles like this… “the most damaging farm products? Organic pasture-fed beef and lamb”… Paid for activist "journalism". https://t.co/Fwxp1RsIta
1:27 PM ∙ Aug 21, 2022
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We only have Monbiot's word for this, but I believe him. His anti-meat stance is well known and I have no reason to think he is not sincere.

He also insists that Gates has no say over the Guardian's editorial position. Again, we only have his word for this, but I will afford him the privilege he so often denies others and assume that he acts in good faith.

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4. None of my articles has ever been funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, or influenced by them in any way. I have reached my own conclusions as a result of my own research, and make my own decisions on what I write.
1:29 PM ∙ Aug 21, 2022
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5. Gates has no influence at all on Guardian policy, editorial choices or decision-making.
1:30 PM ∙ Aug 21, 2022
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Finally, he expresses his frustration about billionaires becoming the subject of conspiracy theories. Not all billionaires, obviously - the Koch brothers are fair game to George and billionaires who own newspapers are the world's puppet-masters, apparently - but the ones who happen to fund his newspaper.

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7. Critical as I am of him and his approach, I deplore the way that he and George Soros have become conspiracy theorists’ boogeymen. They are used by the far right to distract us from the real exploitation and destruction we suffer.
1:32 PM ∙ Aug 21, 2022
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8. Please don’t fall for these fables. We're facing real and massive predicaments - the greatest existential crises humanity has ever confronted – and we need to focus relentlessly on what they are and how we avert them. Don’t let the conspiracy theorists mislead you.
1:39 PM ∙ Aug 21, 2022
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Don't fall for these fables, says the man who describes a think tank that has published the work of twelve Nobel-prize winning economists as "a hoax" and who once gathered a mob to 55 Tufton Street - an address that has become infamous with geographically challenged conspiracy theories - who then vandalised the building.

Monbiot has since argued on Twitter than the Guardian does at least publish the names of its donors, unlike those ghastly free market think tanks, but this isn't true. In the last few years, it has started panhandling for contributions from its readers. You can become a Patron, with packages ranging from £1,200 to £5,000, and you are welcome to give more if you feel like it. Thanks to these donations, the Guardian was able to turn a profit for the first time in 20 years. 

The names of these Patrons are kept secret. Rightly so, I would argue. It's no one else's business if I want to give money to a struggling newspaper, just as it is no one else's business if you want to give to a charity like the IEA. 

It seems reasonable to assume that the people who become Guardian patrons do so because they broadly support the Guardian's worldview. The reverse explanation - that the Guardian changes its editorial line to match the views of its patrons - is fairly obviously absurd, and yet that is how Monbiot thinks it works in think tanks (not all think tanks, just the ones he doesn't like).

Nevertheless, the hilarious fact remains that Monbiot works for an organisation that is funded by anonymous donors and billionaires. He now finds himself the target of lunatic conspiracy theorists shouting "follow the money" and refusing to believe that anybody in his position can have an opinion of their own.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave!

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Duncan Forsyth
Aug 23, 2022

"We only have Monbiot's word for this, but I believe him. His anti-meat stance is well known and I have no reason to think he is not sincere."

I'm not so sure. In this article, he not only endorses meat consumption, but says that cattle should be fed on grass.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation

As a close observer of Guardianism, I'd say it is more likely that he is just swaying to align himself with The Standard Liberal Opinion of the day, rather doing as his paymasters command, but we do have the receipts necessary to accuse him of bad faith.

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Chriss
Oct 8, 2022

This article by George Monbiot is highly entertaining. He seems to have gone full conspiracy theorist and is raving about the evil IEA and it's 'dark money'. He doesn't seem to understand that anyone could legitimately disagree with him.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/05/rightwing-thinktanks-government-bbc-news-programmes

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